and definitions. we've got governors of three states, christie, malloy, cuomo, those three states are talking about a new shoreline and maybe a new normal. maybe we need our folks at the weather channel to tell us, is this a 200-year storm or the start of 200 years worth of storms like this. >> is there a spirit of rebuilding here? do you hear frit the locals? have you been talking to some of the people there? do they want to roll up their sleeves, hard, painful, emotional as it is and rebuild? >> well, larry, i can only quote a fellow local, and that's chris christie, a governor who if you do what i do and still take your family to the boardwalk on weekends and seaside, point pleasant, it's a very good chance you'll see the governor of your state with his family as his parents took them there, because it's special to us, and he was saying he can't speak for all the privately owned places like this, a lot of the jersey shore, a lot of the boardwalks are a private concern. but boy, he wants to come back. this is part of the beating heart, the economic engine of the state of new jersey on down